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		<title>By: Johnboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7b.) INODES 
The use of more than 250,000 inodes on any shared account may potentially result in a warning first, and if no action is taken future suspension. Accounts found to be exceeding the 100,000 inode limit will automatically be removed from our backup system to avoid over-usage. Every file (a webpage, image file, email, etc) on your account uses up 1 inode.

Sites that slightly exceed our inode limits are unlikely to be suspended; however, accounts that constantly create and delete large numbers of files on a regular basis, have hundreds of thousands of files, or cause file system damage may be flagged for review and/or suspension. The primary cause of excessive inodes seems to be due to users leaving their catchall address enabled, but never checking their primary account mailbox. Over time, tens of thousands of messages (or more) build up, eventually pushing the account past our inode limit. To disable your default mailbox, login to cPanel and choose &quot;Mail&quot;, then &quot;Default Address&quot;, &quot;Set Default Address&quot;, and then type in: :fail: No such user here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7b.) INODES<br />
The use of more than 250,000 inodes on any shared account may potentially result in a warning first, and if no action is taken future suspension. Accounts found to be exceeding the 100,000 inode limit will automatically be removed from our backup system to avoid over-usage. Every file (a webpage, image file, email, etc) on your account uses up 1 inode.</p>
<p>Sites that slightly exceed our inode limits are unlikely to be suspended; however, accounts that constantly create and delete large numbers of files on a regular basis, have hundreds of thousands of files, or cause file system damage may be flagged for review and/or suspension. The primary cause of excessive inodes seems to be due to users leaving their catchall address enabled, but never checking their primary account mailbox. Over time, tens of thousands of messages (or more) build up, eventually pushing the account past our inode limit. To disable your default mailbox, login to cPanel and choose &#8220;Mail&#8221;, then &#8220;Default Address&#8221;, &#8220;Set Default Address&#8221;, and then type in: :fail: No such user here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Yogi: Yes, Hostgator is still my top favourite. Their price is a little higher than the others (some goes up to $2-4/mo extra) but I think they worth every cent of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yogi: Yes, Hostgator is still my top favourite. Their price is a little higher than the others (some goes up to $2-4/mo extra) but I think they worth every cent of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Yogi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So as far as I understood this inode concept,
google apps should be another use tip to lower the inode usage as using default mail of web host will increase the inode consumption. Am I right. Also jerry, I&#039;m looking forward to buy web host, Does hostgator still remains your favorite or are there any other services that should/coulde be considered. I&#039;m looking for about 3 years plan with offcourse lesser money to invest and better serive. (two ot more domain hosting will be great)

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So as far as I understood this inode concept,<br />
google apps should be another use tip to lower the inode usage as using default mail of web host will increase the inode consumption. Am I right. Also jerry, I&#8217;m looking forward to buy web host, Does hostgator still remains your favorite or are there any other services that should/coulde be considered. I&#8217;m looking for about 3 years plan with offcourse lesser money to invest and better serive. (two ot more domain hosting will be great)</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Gixmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gixmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for information, really first time i read about inodes. i will study more on net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for information, really first time i read about inodes. i will study more on net.</p>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for the info!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the info!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RB:  Deleting some files will reduce your inodes. A few easy ways to keep your inode count slim includes: 

- Remove all files and folders you don&#039;t need;
- Delete unused cache files (some web apps will create loads of duplicated caches);
- E-mails - don&#039;t keep the messages in your web inbox (use a mail agent instead!)

I hope these help. But seriously, inodes shouldn&#039;t be your major concern you won&#039;t be reaching the limit for most web hosts. 

Good luck with your venture in the exciting webmaster world. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RB:  Deleting some files will reduce your inodes. A few easy ways to keep your inode count slim includes: </p>
<p>- Remove all files and folders you don&#8217;t need;<br />
- Delete unused cache files (some web apps will create loads of duplicated caches);<br />
- E-mails &#8211; don&#8217;t keep the messages in your web inbox (use a mail agent instead!)</p>
<p>I hope these help. But seriously, inodes shouldn&#8217;t be your major concern you won&#8217;t be reaching the limit for most web hosts. </p>
<p>Good luck with your venture in the exciting webmaster world. <img src='http://www.webhostingsecretrevealed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RB</title>
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		<dc:creator>RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, as someone new to shared web hosting, I am confused by the inodes issue. So here is a stupid question from a newcomer: If I do see my inode usage going up too high, is lowering your inodes as simple as deleting files or do you create an inode when you delete a file as well? In short, how do you lower your inode count if if is getting too high?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, as someone new to shared web hosting, I am confused by the inodes issue. So here is a stupid question from a newcomer: If I do see my inode usage going up too high, is lowering your inodes as simple as deleting files or do you create an inode when you delete a file as well? In short, how do you lower your inode count if if is getting too high?</p>
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		<title>By: GatorDoug</title>
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		<dc:creator>GatorDoug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

I&#039;m the Customer Service Manager at HostGator and wanted to reach out here and provide some additional clarification.

Here is a quote from our Terms of Service:

&quot;The use of more than 250,000 inodes on any shared account may potentially result in a warning first, and if no action is taken future suspension. Accounts found to be exceeding the 50,000 inode limit will automatically be removed from our backup system to avoid over-usage.&quot;

I think that makes it clear, but what Bob told you (as a result of talking to Benjamin) is correct. 250,000 is the maximum we allow. 50,000 is the maximum we will backup. The 250,000 limit is more of a soft limit than it is a hard limit (we don&#039;t do much if problems aren&#039;t being caused).

That FAQ article is a little misleading and I&#039;ll get that clarified so we can avoid confusion in the future. 

Hopefully this clears up some of the questions / concerns. If you have any other questions or comments, feel free to let us know.

Best,

Douglas
HostGator.com LLC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the Customer Service Manager at HostGator and wanted to reach out here and provide some additional clarification.</p>
<p>Here is a quote from our Terms of Service:</p>
<p>&#8220;The use of more than 250,000 inodes on any shared account may potentially result in a warning first, and if no action is taken future suspension. Accounts found to be exceeding the 50,000 inode limit will automatically be removed from our backup system to avoid over-usage.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that makes it clear, but what Bob told you (as a result of talking to Benjamin) is correct. 250,000 is the maximum we allow. 50,000 is the maximum we will backup. The 250,000 limit is more of a soft limit than it is a hard limit (we don&#8217;t do much if problems aren&#8217;t being caused).</p>
<p>That FAQ article is a little misleading and I&#8217;ll get that clarified so we can avoid confusion in the future. </p>
<p>Hopefully this clears up some of the questions / concerns. If you have any other questions or comments, feel free to let us know.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Douglas<br />
HostGator.com LLC</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, indeed the responses Bob and I got are contradicting. I am seeking clarification from the related personnel and will response once I&#039;m clear about the issue. Stay tuned!

Anyway, the inodes limitation shouldn&#039;t be a major issue for you to decide on a web host. Personally, I think Hostgator is a great web host and highly recommend their service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeed the responses Bob and I got are contradicting. I am seeking clarification from the related personnel and will response once I&#8217;m clear about the issue. Stay tuned!</p>
<p>Anyway, the inodes limitation shouldn&#8217;t be a major issue for you to decide on a web host. Personally, I think Hostgator is a great web host and highly recommend their service.</p>
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		<title>By: Dumb Shopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dumb Shopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this seems pretty confusing and I am now not sure if Hostgator is a good choice anymore... Jerry, is the inodes an important factor to a web host?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this seems pretty confusing and I am now not sure if Hostgator is a good choice anymore&#8230; Jerry, is the inodes an important factor to a web host?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, thanks a lot for your input!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, thanks a lot for your input!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had my own &#039;Live Chat&#039; and asked about the conflicting TOS and pre-seller FAQ entry. The response I received:

&lt;blockquote&gt;(12:13:27 AM) Benjamin Da: We do not provide backups after 50,000 inodes.

(12:13:47 AM) Benjamin Da: After 250,000 we will require you to lower your inode usage, as this causes a resource issue on the server that you are being hosted on.

(12:14:56 AM) Bob: Thank you. I would suggest that the pre-seller &#039;FAQ&#039; entry should be updated to clarify this point.

(12:16:10 AM) Benjamin Da: I understand, Bob, If you would like, you can email feedback@hostgator.com and request that this be updated, as we are happy to implement positive changes recommended by our clients.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had my own &#8216;Live Chat&#8217; and asked about the conflicting TOS and pre-seller FAQ entry. The response I received:</p>
<blockquote><p>(12:13:27 AM) Benjamin Da: We do not provide backups after 50,000 inodes.</p>
<p>(12:13:47 AM) Benjamin Da: After 250,000 we will require you to lower your inode usage, as this causes a resource issue on the server that you are being hosted on.</p>
<p>(12:14:56 AM) Bob: Thank you. I would suggest that the pre-seller &#8216;FAQ&#8217; entry should be updated to clarify this point.</p>
<p>(12:16:10 AM) Benjamin Da: I understand, Bob, If you would like, you can email <a href="mailto:feedback@hostgator.com">feedback@hostgator.com</a> and request that this be updated, as we are happy to implement positive changes recommended by our clients.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob: This is definitely the old TOS that I referred to when I wrote this post. The info from chat is the latest - and it&#039;s 250,000 no more now :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob: This is definitely the old TOS that I referred to when I wrote this post. The info from chat is the latest &#8211; and it&#8217;s 250,000 no more now <img src='http://www.webhostingsecretrevealed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for so many posts... I was just about to pull the trigger on moving to hostgator when I saw the FAQ entry on their site, googled, found your site, etc.

Going to hostgator&#039;s terms of service (http://www.hostgator.com/tos.shtml) reveals something completely different from what your chat said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
7b.) INODES
The use of more than 250,000 inodes on any shared account may potentially result in a warning first, and if no action is taken future suspension. Accounts found to be exceeding the 50,000 inode limit will automatically be removed from our backup system to avoid over-usage. Every file (a webpage, image file, email, etc) on your account uses up 1 inode.

Sites that slightly exceed our inode limits are unlikely to be suspended; however, accounts that constantly create and delete large numbers of files on a regular basis, have hundreds of thousands of files, or cause file system damage may be flagged for review and/or suspension. The primary cause of excessive inodes seems to be due to users leaving their catchall address enabled, but never checking their primary account mailbox. Over time, tens of thousands of messages (or more) build up, eventually pushing the account past our inode limit. To disable your default mailbox, login to cPanel and choose &quot;Mail&quot;, then &quot;Default Address&quot;, &quot;Set Default Address&quot;, and then type in: :fail: No such user here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for so many posts&#8230; I was just about to pull the trigger on moving to hostgator when I saw the FAQ entry on their site, googled, found your site, etc.</p>
<p>Going to hostgator&#8217;s terms of service (<a href="http://www.hostgator.com/tos.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.hostgator.com/tos.shtml</a>) reveals something completely different from what your chat said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
7b.) INODES<br />
The use of more than 250,000 inodes on any shared account may potentially result in a warning first, and if no action is taken future suspension. Accounts found to be exceeding the 50,000 inode limit will automatically be removed from our backup system to avoid over-usage. Every file (a webpage, image file, email, etc) on your account uses up 1 inode.</p>
<p>Sites that slightly exceed our inode limits are unlikely to be suspended; however, accounts that constantly create and delete large numbers of files on a regular basis, have hundreds of thousands of files, or cause file system damage may be flagged for review and/or suspension. The primary cause of excessive inodes seems to be due to users leaving their catchall address enabled, but never checking their primary account mailbox. Over time, tens of thousands of messages (or more) build up, eventually pushing the account past our inode limit. To disable your default mailbox, login to cPanel and choose &#8220;Mail&#8221;, then &#8220;Default Address&#8221;, &#8220;Set Default Address&#8221;, and then type in: :fail: No such user here.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bob J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps my mistake. Their pre-seller FAQ (http://support.hostgator.com/articles/pre-sales-questions/inode-usage-limits) may have some misinformation. Querying the forums indicate what you had said - &gt;50k just means no more automated backups...

They should update their faq. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps my mistake. Their pre-seller FAQ (<a href="http://support.hostgator.com/articles/pre-sales-questions/inode-usage-limits" rel="nofollow">http://support.hostgator.com/articles/pre-sales-questions/inode-usage-limits</a>) may have some misinformation. Querying the forums indicate what you had said &#8211; &gt;50k just means no more automated backups&#8230;</p>
<p>They should update their faq. <img src='http://www.webhostingsecretrevealed.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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